question about ss
greenbean
Oct 31, 2009
was wondering if anyone thinks there's anything suspicious with the markings on this BF2142 Screen Shot?
not knowing the game I could use the help of someone who plays it... thanks.

this image is not being used to ban someone... more of a credibility question.
not knowing the game I could use the help of someone who plays it... thanks.

this image is not being used to ban someone... more of a credibility question.
fozzer
Oct 31, 2009
and who's credibility are we being asked to comment on in a public forum section greenbean
Piggy
Oct 31, 2009
There is a Private section for this, exactly why your a Streaming Admin.
Plus it's not even a PBSS so.
Plus it's not even a PBSS so.
greenbean
Oct 31, 2009
thanks duality for the confirmation and everyone for your comments which I'll take into account next time.
Forces(UK)
Nov 3, 2009
If you want a 3rd party opinion, I also concur that the screen shot appears to be 100% clean.
If the player in question is using a gamehack, then it is not one which affects what appears on his screen.
If you or one of your admins plays the game and doesn't see those flag markers, try pressing the Alt key, which toggles that extra info.
Cheers.
If the player in question is using a gamehack, then it is not one which affects what appears on his screen.
If you or one of your admins plays the game and doesn't see those flag markers, try pressing the Alt key, which toggles that extra info.
Cheers.
EAS Kevlar
Nov 3, 2009
I gotta ask about one more shot. As you can kinda tell, neither of us have ever played BF2142, so it's hard to decipher if the shots are clean or not compared to the COD series 

So, what do the red and blue "blobs" at the top of the screen mean?

So, what do the red and blue "blobs" at the top of the screen mean?
EAS Kevlar
Nov 3, 2009
Ok, thanks for the reply. Again, as you can tell, I haven't played it at all
Duality
Nov 3, 2009
One thing you will notice about 2142 - is that you don't need to hack. The game provides a variety of hacks for you in the form of unlocks
topdog21
Dec 25, 2009
(test was done with xp as well no black ss at all ) well here is some new info: Topdog tested my computer at its current configuration,and it in fact,it returned a black screenshot,as I said in my first post,this shoots my theory all to hell lol, after some experimentation,yes Windows Vista (any version, Im running home premium 32 bit updated to service pack 2) and GFX cards of NVidia (Im running a GTX 285) with current drivers,updated punkbuster, DirectX 11, and In game anti-aliasing turned on will possibly return a black screenshot,so in my case (and this would be a pretty common one) yeah Anti-aliasing is causing an error returning a black screenshot. Worth noting: BF2 and all punkbuster related applications were running with full administrative access,and in windows XP compatibility modes. The only thing that allowed me to return a clean SS was turning off anti-aliasing.
So this is a Vista exclusive problem,with NVidia cards. I would encourage any other clan members running vista to report their GFX card types,driver revisions,current directX version,and allow some experimentation with PB screenshots with admins who have the ability to do so. I would like to narrow down this issue to its specific causes,such as: Is it limited to Nvidia GFX cards or does this effect ATI as well? If so,what models? what driver version? Is it a DirectX related problem? If so,what versions are effected? Is there a difference between its effect in 32 and 64 bit versions of vista?......etc.....
If we can narrow it down to the nearest conditions it is encountered by players,we will be able to set up an "honesty test" questionnaire that we can give to players when we encounter black screenshots. Based on their answers we can better determine if the player is honestly encountering this error,if their answers match the criteria of our own experimentation. OR; if the player is likely to be intentionally blocking the screenshots, if the info they provide is not on par with the conditions of this error. In either case, unfortunately we can not base any judgment of a given player based on a black screenshot. In fact I would suggest ignoring black screenshots altogether if there is no obvious evidence that a given player is hacking. As much as I hate to say it,but I need to go against my previous research. A black screenshot may actually be a very common issue that many honest players are having,but most honest player dont know about it,because most of them dont get screenshot'ed.
I think black screenshots should only be taken into consideration if there is other blatant evidence of hacking on the players behalf. It should not be in any kind of normal policy,or even part of the server messages,it should be an ignored issue, If I can run into this problem anyone can. This is exactly why I have been experimenting,to see if I could easily cause this error,and I did.
Edited by topdog21, Dec 25, 2009 - 03:10 AM.
So this is a Vista exclusive problem,with NVidia cards. I would encourage any other clan members running vista to report their GFX card types,driver revisions,current directX version,and allow some experimentation with PB screenshots with admins who have the ability to do so. I would like to narrow down this issue to its specific causes,such as: Is it limited to Nvidia GFX cards or does this effect ATI as well? If so,what models? what driver version? Is it a DirectX related problem? If so,what versions are effected? Is there a difference between its effect in 32 and 64 bit versions of vista?......etc.....
If we can narrow it down to the nearest conditions it is encountered by players,we will be able to set up an "honesty test" questionnaire that we can give to players when we encounter black screenshots. Based on their answers we can better determine if the player is honestly encountering this error,if their answers match the criteria of our own experimentation. OR; if the player is likely to be intentionally blocking the screenshots, if the info they provide is not on par with the conditions of this error. In either case, unfortunately we can not base any judgment of a given player based on a black screenshot. In fact I would suggest ignoring black screenshots altogether if there is no obvious evidence that a given player is hacking. As much as I hate to say it,but I need to go against my previous research. A black screenshot may actually be a very common issue that many honest players are having,but most honest player dont know about it,because most of them dont get screenshot'ed.
I think black screenshots should only be taken into consideration if there is other blatant evidence of hacking on the players behalf. It should not be in any kind of normal policy,or even part of the server messages,it should be an ignored issue, If I can run into this problem anyone can. This is exactly why I have been experimenting,to see if I could easily cause this error,and I did.
Edited by topdog21, Dec 25, 2009 - 03:10 AM.
topdog21
Dec 25, 2009
EAS Kevlar, op Nov 3, 2009 - 04:43 PM, zei:
I gotta ask about one more shot. As you can kinda tell, neither of us have ever played BF2142, so it's hard to decipher if the shots are clean or not compared to the COD series 

So, what do the red and blue "blobs" at the top of the screen mean?

So, what do the red and blue "blobs" at the top of the screen mean?
those are the uncap ships


