This looks to be a great addition, and with 7000+ unofficial bans already, seems a great success. Hopes this brings even more teams to PBBans!
Do you guys have a breakdown of how many teams make up lite streaming vs full?
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PBBans Lite Streaming now available
Started by MaydaX, Jun 28 2012 01:17 PM
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Posted Jul 5, 2012 - 02:45 PM
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Posted Jul 5, 2012 - 04:27 PM
Crotan, on Jul 5, 2012 - 02:45 PM, said:
This looks to be a great addition, and with 7000+ unofficial bans already, seems a great success. Hopes this brings even more teams to PBBans!
ET has had an unofficial banlist for over a year now, I think.
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Do you guys have a breakdown of how many teams make up lite streaming vs full?
Servers:
total (full | lite)
Streaming Servers 3,240 (3,227 | 13)
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Posted Jul 7, 2012 - 07:26 AM
Hi -I cant find any links to apply for the Lite Streaming - - can someone direct me to the right spot?
Thanks
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Posted Jul 7, 2012 - 08:02 AM
Same place as the normal streaming application. There is a pulldown box at the bottom of the page
http://www.pbbans.com/streaming-application.html
http://www.pbbans.com/streaming-application.html
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Posted Jul 10, 2012 - 04:09 AM
NIce one, add's even more protection to our holy Battlegrounds!
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Posted Jul 11, 2012 - 11:49 AM
Have I read this right, any individual can stream a server here as a lite admin but it's only short term with the hope of that admin becoming full admin when he/she starts/joins a clan?
I'm asking because as an individual who's no longer part of a clan if a game I play uses PB then I would like to stream here.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I'm asking because as an individual who's no longer part of a clan if a game I play uses PB then I would like to stream here.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Posted Jul 11, 2012 - 01:40 PM
MaydaX, on Jul 11, 2012 - 12:00 PM, said:
You can use Lite as an individual for as long as you wish.
Thanks.
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Posted Jul 12, 2012 - 07:18 AM
Very cool, I applied for the lite for now until things grow...One thing that I noticed is when I look at my servers pb shots many of them are black including my own...I hear that having anti aliasing on and many other things can cause this but it worries me that once im streaming will that result in a ban? how does that work as I just want the real hackers banned not people having technical issues ? Also I remember when i played bf3 we learned people were for a time using the window7 aero based hack that did an overlay on their screen and was not able to be caught by antihack software...is this type of hack available for cod4 because there have been some on my server that i seriously question as it seems every shot they make is extremely accurate to the point of suspicion. Thanks
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Posted Jul 12, 2012 - 09:20 AM
Receiving black PB screenshot can be caused by various things, most important its proof for nothing.
One can be innocent and the other can use hacks and both can get the same result, black screenshot.
One can be innocent and the other can use hacks and both can get the same result, black screenshot.
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Posted Jul 12, 2012 - 11:31 AM
byyoseph, on Jul 12, 2012 - 07:18 AM, said:
Very cool, I applied for the lite for now until things grow...One thing that I noticed is when I look at my servers pb shots many of them are black including my own...I hear that having anti aliasing on and many other things can cause this but it worries me that once im streaming will that result in a ban? how does that work as I just want the real hackers banned not people having technical issues ? Also I remember when i played bf3 we learned people were for a time using the window7 aero based hack that did an overlay on their screen and was not able to be caught by antihack software...is this type of hack available for cod4 because there have been some on my server that i seriously question as it seems every shot they make is extremely accurate to the point of suspicion. Thanks
If you have suspicions of any player on your COD4 servers .......... make a demo of the player concerned and review it at your leisure.
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Posted Jul 16, 2012 - 05:42 PM
DR@G()N, on Jul 2, 2012 - 05:46 PM, said:
I think it a wast of pbbans time.. the streaming requirements for the full steaming admins are not that hard to do,,
I applaud PBBans for this innovative approach. Nice Job
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Posted Jul 17, 2012 - 04:19 AM
Ap3x_Pr3dator, on Jul 16, 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:
Not that it's hard to do at all, the issue PBBans and others run into is not all clans can afford a website right off the start.
I applaud PBBans for this innovative approach. Nice Job
I applaud PBBans for this innovative approach. Nice Job
In this day and age there are actually some pretty good free website hosting companies out there, and no I'm not talking about a gametracker page. But companies like enjin, will host a clan website complete with forums. Don't expect the bells and whistles but it's a damn good start for free.
Not having a clan website, isn't an excuse for a group these days, you just gotta know what's out there. Having an active forum is another issue all together though.
Hoping more groups jump on board!
Edited by Crotan, Jul 17, 2012 - 04:19 AM.
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Posted Jul 17, 2012 - 11:04 AM
Crotan, on Jul 17, 2012 - 04:19 AM, said:
In this day and age there are actually some pretty good free website hosting companies out there, and no I'm not talking about a gametracker page. But companies like enjin, will host a clan website complete with forums. Don't expect the bells and whistles but it's a damn good start for free.
Not having a clan website, isn't an excuse for a group these days, you just gotta know what's out there. Having an active forum is another issue all together though.
Hoping more groups jump on board!
Not having a clan website, isn't an excuse for a group these days, you just gotta know what's out there. Having an active forum is another issue all together though.
Hoping more groups jump on board!
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Posted Jul 17, 2012 - 05:00 PM
I myself have a Nuke Evolution Extreme site, but back in the day when I first started gaming there were no free sites (yes, i have been gaming for many years).
I agree there are options out there (now) for those who want a "gaming community" or "clan".
Jimbo brings up a very valid point, some don't want to manage and maintain a clan, alot of us old heads who have ran clans can tell you it's a time consuming task, if your clan is of any significant size.
I still applaud PBBans for this approach, it's Inclusive as to where the older policy model was Exclusionary.
Great Job.
I agree there are options out there (now) for those who want a "gaming community" or "clan".
Jimbo brings up a very valid point, some don't want to manage and maintain a clan, alot of us old heads who have ran clans can tell you it's a time consuming task, if your clan is of any significant size.
I still applaud PBBans for this approach, it's Inclusive as to where the older policy model was Exclusionary.
Great Job.
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Posted Jul 20, 2012 - 11:23 AM
Glad to be back streaming!
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Posted Aug 12, 2012 - 06:46 PM
@Maydax
Does this come on the heals of the issues that came from the attempted establishment of a relationship with GGC streaming?
Many of the questions that I have found on the GGC site had to deal with why does pbbans need such strict requirements for people to stream? Especially (as another person stated) most of the clans lock down their site after they are streaming so you can't check their membership or for other reasons.
Does this come on the heals of the issues that came from the attempted establishment of a relationship with GGC streaming?
Many of the questions that I have found on the GGC site had to deal with why does pbbans need such strict requirements for people to stream? Especially (as another person stated) most of the clans lock down their site after they are streaming so you can't check their membership or for other reasons.
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Posted Aug 12, 2012 - 07:34 PM
It was done to give people who can't meet the website requirement a way to use PBBans while keeping our strict requirements in place for those who can. Some just want live ban enforcement which is what the lite option offers plus a little more.
There have been no fake bans submitted to PBBans on a mass scale since we made the strict requirements in 2008. Have there been fake bans sent to PBBans on a much smaller scale? Maybe, but there is really no way to tell without human interaction and even then it may not be easy to see. That applies to anyone that receives PB logs in real time (streaming) from PunkBuster servers.
I see no point in covering up the risks and why we have the strict requirements.
There have been no fake bans submitted to PBBans on a mass scale since we made the strict requirements in 2008. Have there been fake bans sent to PBBans on a much smaller scale? Maybe, but there is really no way to tell without human interaction and even then it may not be easy to see. That applies to anyone that receives PB logs in real time (streaming) from PunkBuster servers.
I see no point in covering up the risks and why we have the strict requirements.
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Posted Aug 12, 2012 - 08:25 PM
DSPSysop, on Aug 12, 2012 - 06:46 PM, said:
Especially (as another person stated) most of the clans lock down their site after they are streaming so you can't check their membership or for other reasons.
there are teams that have made alternative arrangements with PBBans concerning access to forums, etc for security reasons
this is considered on a case by case basis
not to say that all teams that have locked down their sites have.
with ~12k teams, registering for each site would be impossible
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Posted Aug 13, 2012 - 11:25 AM
@Magnet,
I have been around pbbans far longer than this account. I remember when pbbans was covering just sof2 and a few other games. Since even then, people have locked down thier forums and do not give an account of who is on their roster on their main site. They make it viewable just to get streaming and then take it out. To have such requirements means the responsibility of treating all fairly and checking up on such requirements, don't you think ?
@Maydax
I guess my thought is, why should all be "punished" with having to adhere to such strict rules/requirements, while others can now get a lite option and still have worry free streaming bans. I mean, let's face it, you are going to stream your server if you have hacks and cheats in your clan?
People that are here want to be here and, WANT the streaming and everything that it is capable of doing. Some don't want to run a clan (as has been said ), or have need of running a website. Why should this now be a requirement at all.
In actuality, we have had this conversation before maydax. Many years ago actually. When Depetris was around.
I have been around pbbans far longer than this account. I remember when pbbans was covering just sof2 and a few other games. Since even then, people have locked down thier forums and do not give an account of who is on their roster on their main site. They make it viewable just to get streaming and then take it out. To have such requirements means the responsibility of treating all fairly and checking up on such requirements, don't you think ?
@Maydax
I guess my thought is, why should all be "punished" with having to adhere to such strict rules/requirements, while others can now get a lite option and still have worry free streaming bans. I mean, let's face it, you are going to stream your server if you have hacks and cheats in your clan?
People that are here want to be here and, WANT the streaming and everything that it is capable of doing. Some don't want to run a clan (as has been said ), or have need of running a website. Why should this now be a requirement at all.
In actuality, we have had this conversation before maydax. Many years ago actually. When Depetris was around.
Edited by DSPSysop, Aug 13, 2012 - 11:28 AM.
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