Medal of Honor Support Suspended
MaydaX
Dec 2, 2010
SuperTaz, on Dec 2, 2010 - 05:29 PM, said:
EB no longer supports any Crysis game because of the developers' failure to fix the issue regarding UCON amongst other things.
More likely was because payments stopped
LegendStudio
Dec 3, 2010
MaydaX, on Dec 2, 2010 - 05:33 PM, said:
More likely was because payments stopped
EA & Crytek really suck on this!
They never announce EB stopped support for PB and they don't have patch to disable it.
So players have to search on the internet for last PB update files.
How silly is it!
Beer_Sh0ts
Dec 3, 2010
http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/0/4292357.page#10909378
Not that it matters but above is a link that we have started at EA. Feel free to voice any and all opinions there. Without having streaming servers we all might as well be playing solitaire.
Not that it matters but above is a link that we have started at EA. Feel free to voice any and all opinions there. Without having streaming servers we all might as well be playing solitaire.
MaydaX
Dec 3, 2010
Beer_Sh0ts, on Dec 3, 2010 - 10:57 AM, said:
Not that it matters but above is a link that we have started at EA. Feel free to voice any and all opinions there. Without having streaming servers we all might as well be playing solitaire.
Never hurts to try but nothing will come of it. Cheats are becoming more and more advanced while anti-cheat as a whole is moving backwards. At this rate the cheaters will come out on top and it only seems we are looking into the future as others just ignore the issues and support the games anyway.
If they want to keep server files locked away while RSPs are breached over and over again and RSP's ignore the problems too that's their right but they both can deal with the increased cheater population.
Blyy
Dec 3, 2010
We have 6 MoH servers on a dedi, and had as of three weeks ago all servers in the top 10 (by gametrackers estimate at least). Its a bummer that PBans doesnt want to support it anymore, together we caught 25 or so hackers from MoH alone... we've been rebooting empty servers daily to get them back on line with PBBans. Its been a pain, but better than nothing at all. Your services will be missed.
WASP021000
Dec 3, 2010
j' espere que sa va revenir a la normal et que vous aurait a nouveau le droit de restreamer les serveurs MOH car les cheateurs vont sans donnee a coeur joie maintenant.
Edited by WASP021000, Dec 3, 2010 - 03:53 PM.
Edited by WASP021000, Dec 3, 2010 - 03:53 PM.
hellreturn
Dec 3, 2010
Vote with your money and companies will understand. No buying game and no running servers. I still enjoy running my W:ET/COD4 servers. Different mods, maps, community support to fix issues and new things. Until you guys will not voice your opinion together with money, this companies will keep selling crap.
If you guys will stop running server:
1. Not many will buy the game because there will not be much talk about this game on internet, any clan forums or anywhere.
2. No profit for company.
3. No profit for GSP.
Move your clan server to other games. Remember, end user is the king of market.
If you guys will stop running server:
1. Not many will buy the game because there will not be much talk about this game on internet, any clan forums or anywhere.
2. No profit for company.
3. No profit for GSP.
Move your clan server to other games. Remember, end user is the king of market.
MaydaX
Dec 3, 2010
hellreturn, on Dec 3, 2010 - 04:32 PM, said:
Vote with your money and companies will understand. No buying game and no running servers. I still enjoy running my W:ET/COD4 servers. Different mods, maps, community support to fix issues and new things. Until you guys will not voice your opinion together with money, this companies will keep selling crap.
Problem is the market is full of kids who don't care about the server side of things. They get mad then the publisher offer something new and they run and buy it. Remember that MW2 boycott? It all reminds me of jingling keys in front of a baby that gets them excited.
Kolor
Dec 3, 2010
"Back in the day" we didn't have the range of consoles we do today. That is the primary market, regardless of whether we buy the game or not the crap will still get released, with a new big release every 6 months. PC gamers will struggle to have their voice heard over the roar of the console market.
Such a small percentage are we now that if we stop buying the games they will simply stop porting them over, not change the way things are developed.
Such a small percentage are we now that if we stop buying the games they will simply stop porting them over, not change the way things are developed.
fozzer
Dec 3, 2010
Kolor, on Dec 3, 2010 - 04:54 PM, said:
"Back in the day" we didn't have the range of consoles we do today. That is the primary market, regardless of whether we buy the game or not the crap will still get released, with a new big release every 6 months. PC gamers will struggle to have their voice heard over the roar of the console market.
Such a small percentage are we now that if we stop buying the games they will simply stop porting them over, not change the way things are developed.
Such a small percentage are we now that if we stop buying the games they will simply stop porting them over, not change the way things are developed.
There are plenty of companies that would give their right arm to be in a position like that.
Instead we are being suckered by companies that dont really give a toss after the initial sale is made, at least thats what the resounding silence and lack of patches etc etc seems like to me.
MaydaX
Dec 3, 2010
Problem is the games themselves are not integrating PB properly anymore. ID Tech 3 was one of the best engines for PB. PBSS, Demos, MD5 / CVAR checks all worked flawlessly and no streaming issues. Games today on the other hand are getting worse with every new release.
PB itself is falling behind. PBSS still don't work after 3 years with games where AA is on. PBSS themselves are too small limited to ~81000 pixels where 1680x1050 (1,764,000 pixels) and 1920x1200 (2,304,000 pixels) are becoming more common.
I've been here for over 6 years and have seen first hand how anti-cheat is degrading. Cheats are getting more advanced with every game but PB itself is not. Detections are getting better but the admin tools that help take up the slack for undetected cheats are becoming broken, improperly integrated or not updated to keep up with todays technology.
Even cheaters know we make a difference:
PB itself is falling behind. PBSS still don't work after 3 years with games where AA is on. PBSS themselves are too small limited to ~81000 pixels where 1680x1050 (1,764,000 pixels) and 1920x1200 (2,304,000 pixels) are becoming more common.
I've been here for over 6 years and have seen first hand how anti-cheat is degrading. Cheats are getting more advanced with every game but PB itself is not. Detections are getting better but the admin tools that help take up the slack for undetected cheats are becoming broken, improperly integrated or not updated to keep up with todays technology.
Even cheaters know we make a difference:
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In one hand it's good to have non streamed server,but in other hand, game will be overhacked.
Kolor
Dec 3, 2010
I still cannot understand how it's possible they have not fixed the screenshots yet.
Frame is rendered, buffer is written to disk. How can this f*ck up? Compress the png (using either JPEG, LZMA, aplib, zlib etc) and upload to server.
Maybe EvenBalance need to hire a new coder ... shit you could outsource this few less than £1000 :/
Frame is rendered, buffer is written to disk. How can this f*ck up? Compress the png (using either JPEG, LZMA, aplib, zlib etc) and upload to server.
Maybe EvenBalance need to hire a new coder ... shit you could outsource this few less than £1000 :/
Ubique
Dec 3, 2010
Can you allow swearing so I can effectively post??
I totally agree, we (SsA) will be closing our server.
The game is a total disappointment and not worth anyones $$$$$
I totally agree, we (SsA) will be closing our server.
The game is a total disappointment and not worth anyones $$$$$
SuperTaz
Dec 3, 2010
EB better do something quick because they are losing more and more contracts. If EA goes with VAC, then Evenbalance will fall because EA is their last big contract.
Kalms
Dec 3, 2010
As some sort of counterweight to all the negativity displayed in this thread:
DICE is committed to getting PB to function properly in MOH. You will see at least one server update specifically to address the current issues with servers that randomly stop streaming.
DICE is committed to getting PB to function properly in MOH. You will see at least one server update specifically to address the current issues with servers that randomly stop streaming.
HSMagnet
Dec 3, 2010
Kalms, on Dec 3, 2010 - 08:59 PM, said:
As some sort of counterweight to all the negativity displayed in this thread:
DICE is committed to getting PB to function properly in MOH. You will see at least one server update specifically to address the current issues with servers that randomly stop streaming.
DICE is committed to getting PB to function properly in MOH. You will see at least one server update specifically to address the current issues with servers that randomly stop streaming.
appreciate you and your time, as always Kalms
i know you take all this to heart and i am sorry, as it isn't directed at you per se
thanks for the information
SuperTaz
Dec 3, 2010
Thanks for the information, Kalms. I respect your efforts to help make the gaming environment more playable and cheat free.
Ark
Dec 4, 2010
Our server was streaming fine, all it needed was a restart of the server daily. We are going through Gameservers, however I've heard allot of issues with Hypernia servers streaming.
Thanks for your support though....
Ark...........
Do to the increasing streaming problems in MoH, streaming support is suspended effective immediately. We are no closer to finding a fix to correct the streaming issues as we simply don't have the ability to run any tests and affected RSP's don't seem interested in helping solving it.
We will resume support if the streaming issues are ever corrected however if or when that will be is unknown.
MoH is now set as inactive and admins will not be able to add servers or submit PBSS. Streaming servers will remain streaming until they stop at which point they will be removed.
Sorry for the inconvenience this creates for our MoH supporters but our staff is no longer willing to support this game in its current state.
Thanks for your support though....
Ark...........
MaydaX, on Nov 30, 2010 - 07:14 PM, said:
Do to the increasing streaming problems in MoH, streaming support is suspended effective immediately. We are no closer to finding a fix to correct the streaming issues as we simply don't have the ability to run any tests and affected RSP's don't seem interested in helping solving it.
We will resume support if the streaming issues are ever corrected however if or when that will be is unknown.
MoH is now set as inactive and admins will not be able to add servers or submit PBSS. Streaming servers will remain streaming until they stop at which point they will be removed.
Sorry for the inconvenience this creates for our MoH supporters but our staff is no longer willing to support this game in its current state.
Eldelgas
Dec 4, 2010
DakotaDoc64, on Dec 1, 2010 - 01:47 AM, said:
This is unfortunate to see, but I have to agree. This directly affects clans like ours as has the continued streaming problems since launch. Any course of action recommended? Petition our RSP to help, DICE to provide PBBans access, organize server admins to pull the plug on all MOH servers. I am not sure what the percentage of MOH servers are registered to stream to PBBans. IMO they should all be, but that is just my opinion.
The only winners here are the cheaters. DICE, Evenbalance and RSP's have egg on their face. Our hands are tied, there is little we can do. The ones that are capable must recognize they need to support programs like PBBans that add value to their products. That goes for DICE, EvenBalance and all RSP's, we are their customer.
If DICE cannot recognize that we need streaming services like this, to defeat cheaters that are blatantly violating their TOS, then gaming has really come to an end. It is in their ball park, if DICE is not on the side of the legitimate player, then they are on the side of the cheater.
The only winners here are the cheaters. DICE, Evenbalance and RSP's have egg on their face. Our hands are tied, there is little we can do. The ones that are capable must recognize they need to support programs like PBBans that add value to their products. That goes for DICE, EvenBalance and all RSP's, we are their customer.
If DICE cannot recognize that we need streaming services like this, to defeat cheaters that are blatantly violating their TOS, then gaming has really come to an end. It is in their ball park, if DICE is not on the side of the legitimate player, then they are on the side of the cheater.
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