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buttscratcher's Photo buttscratcher Sep 2, 2010

View PostLive, on Aug 28, 2010 - 10:03 PM, said:

Almost has me hoping... :lol:

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Guess I should sign up for lessons at the local ju/co...Be careful of what you wish for? :o

I guess the news is still fresh, and needs some sorting, but looks like there may have been a monkey wrench thrown into the works with last nights MP "event".

Was kind of confused with the early report that GameServers.com would be the only GSP allowed to host the game. Did you hear anything from Activision reguarding LPGS hosting? Pretty confusing stuff.
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View Postbuttscratcher, on Sep 2, 2010 - 10:23 AM, said:


Guess I should sign up for lessons at the local ju/co...Be careful of what you wish for? :o

I guess the news is still fresh, and needs some sorting, but looks like there may have been a monkey wrench thrown into the works with last nights MP "event".

Was kind of confused with the early report that GameServers.com would be the only GSP allowed to host the game. Did you hear anything from Activision reguarding LPGS hosting? Pretty confusing stuff.

The only thing I can say right now is that we've been in contact with Activision and will be again next week. I'll have something concrete next week by the sounds of things.
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Kolor's Photo Kolor Sep 2, 2010

Sorry for thread hijacking but gameservers have a statement on their website regarding the exclusivity.
So much for open market :(
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View PostLive, on Sep 2, 2010 - 10:37 AM, said:

The only thing I can say right now is that we've been in contact with Activision and will be again next week. I'll have something concrete next week by the sounds of things.
The whole VAC thing is still a deal breaker for most people.

Maybe if you get anywhere this side of release you could save them from making the biggest mistake ever. I could deal with hosted files with a GSP if it was PB, like BF:BC2. No way on earth though am I getting files with a GSP when it's got VAC.
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View PostEverson, on Sep 2, 2010 - 11:22 AM, said:

The whole VAC thing is still a deal breaker for most people.

Maybe if you get anywhere this side of release you could save them from making the biggest mistake ever. I could deal with hosted files with a GSP if it was PB, like BF:BC2. No way on earth though am I getting files with a GSP when it's got VAC.

lol. wrong thread :P . Activision bashing goes here http://www.pbbans.com/forums/call-of-duty-black-ops-t125263.html


This is about LPGS pre-orders.
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View Postbuttscratcher, on Sep 2, 2010 - 11:34 AM, said:

Uhm, did you even consider the fact that the statement was relevant to the GSP who wants to provide COD:BO servers?

Who should be fully informed and aware of customer opinions regarding a potential product.

(answer honestly now? no.)

P.S. I believe the same happened in the MW2 pre-order thread! It's just a bonus that it's Activision bashing :P
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View PostLive, on Sep 2, 2010 - 10:37 AM, said:

The only thing I can say right now is that we've been in contact with Activision and will be again next week. I'll have something concrete next week by the sounds of things.

good luck

keep us informed
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View PostKolor, on Sep 2, 2010 - 10:44 AM, said:

Sorry for thread hijacking but gameservers have a statement on their website regarding the exclusivity.
So much for open market :(

All that means is that their "corporate hospitality" was a tad better than others :P
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View PostEverson, on Sep 2, 2010 - 11:41 AM, said:

Uhm, did you even consider the fact that the statement was relevant to the GSP who wants to provide COD:BO servers?

Who should be fully informed and aware of customer opinions regarding a potential product.

(answer honestly now? no.)

In light that its been confirmed that there is only one "exclusive" - GSP for COD-BO, the first part is irrelevant.

As to the second part,(in veiw of the first part) No, your right. I did not. :D
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MaydaX's Photo MaydaX Sep 2, 2010

Trusted providers crap is getting old. If M$ did it, people would cry Anti-Trust but it's OK when EA or Activision does it. Nothing left to PC gaming but greedy corps and huge gsps who are more worried about money then to stand up for what's right. The publishers are screwed without the gsps but the select few that get trusted provider status see it as less competition so they won't say no.

I've truely had enough of ranked and trusted provider shit end of story. I truely hope smaller gsps launch an anti-trust suit in the future.
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View PostMaydaX, on Sep 2, 2010 - 01:24 PM, said:

Trusted providers crap is getting old. If M$ did it, people would cry Anti-Trust but it's OK when EA or Activision does it. Nothing left to PC gaming but greedy corps and huge gsps who are more worried about money then to stand up for what's right. The publishers are screwed without the gsps but the select few that get trusted provider status see it as less competition so they won't say no.

I've truely had enough of ranked and trusted provider shit end of story. I truely hope smaller gsps launch an anti-trust suit in the future.

Here is the email address to send one off and fight for this. [email protected]

I do believe it violates the Sherman Antitrust Act and the Federal Trade Commission Act.

Awefully funny that you should mention that MaydaX as that is exactly the complaint I forwarded to the DOJ this morning and I've planted the seed amongst a number of providers to start a consortium amongst us to retain counsel collectively and have this reversed. This is a clear cut case of a monopoly as only one company has the ability to offer this across not only multiple States but it is a world wide pandimonium as well.

However, in the end, all those that stated they wouldn't support mw2...look what they did. I sincerely doubt I'll be able to get anywhere and if there isn't enough interest to seriously pursue this interest from other Providers whether they are small or large (I doubt many of us will get along long enough to determine who is going to shell out what...) then I'll be dropping it at the end of next week. I'm willing to put $5,000 in the kitty to retain counsel and seek a legal injunction. I wonder how much that would impact this if it were able to suspend the PC market release based on that. :eek:

http://www.justice.gov/atr/public/divisionmanual/chapter2.pdf
Edited by Live, Sep 2, 2010 - 02:27 PM.
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View PostLive, on Sep 2, 2010 - 02:23 PM, said:

Here is the email address to send one off and fight for this. [email protected]

I do believe it violates the Sherman Antitrust Act and the Federal Trade Commission Act.

Awefully funny that you should mention that MaydaX as that is exactly the complaint I forwarded to the DOJ this morning and I've planted the seed amongst a number of providers to start a consortium amongst us to retain counsel collectively and have this reversed. This is a clear cut case of a monopoly as only one company has the ability to offer this across not only multiple States but it is a world wide pandimonium as well.

However, in the end, all those that stated they wouldn't support mw2...look what they did. I sincerely doubt I'll be able to get anywhere and if there isn't enough interest to seriously pursue this interest from other Providers whether they are small or large (I doubt many of us will get along long enough to determine who is going to shell out what...) then I'll be dropping it at the end of next week. I'm willing to put $5,000 in the kitty to retain counsel and seek a legal injunction. I wonder how much that would impact this if it were able to suspend the PC market release based on that. :eek:

http://www.justice.gov/atr/public/divisionmanual/chapter2.pdf


Well isn't EA Sport's deal whhere they have exclusive rights to make NFL games kind of similar..? I don't see much being done about that either.
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thetoast's Photo thetoast Sep 2, 2010

Is Cod:BO going to use VAC again? Has that been confirmed?
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View Postthetoast, on Sep 2, 2010 - 07:30 PM, said:

Is Cod:BO going to use VAC again? Has that been confirmed?

yep
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SuperTaz's Photo SuperTaz Sep 2, 2010

Yes, COD:BO will use VAC and Steam.
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thetoast's Photo thetoast Sep 2, 2010

oh boy.
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HSMagnet's Photo HSMagnet Sep 2, 2010

tbh, i like steam

VAC not so much
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Everson's Photo Everson Sep 3, 2010

View Postbuttscratcher, on Sep 2, 2010 - 12:36 PM, said:

In light that its been confirmed that there is only one "exclusive" - GSP for COD-BO, the first part is irrelevant.
Keyword: "wants" :P Re-read ;)
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buttscratcher's Photo buttscratcher Sep 3, 2010

^ naaa, I am done with that one. thx though.
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View PostSuperTaz, on Sep 2, 2010 - 09:13 PM, said:

Yes, COD:BO will use VAC and Steam.

Looks like another COD release I will be bypassing them, shame really as I had high hopes they would rectify all the mistakes of MW2. Should of known better.:(
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